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Dundee City Police Pipe Band
The Story behind the Band

     Dundee City Police Pipe Band was founded in 1905 when a group of piping devotees in the force received permission from the Chief Constable, David Dewar, to form a band. They had no uniform, funds or equipment other than the bagpipes owned by the individuals of this small group.
     A number of fund-raising operations were put in hand, and the band members were soon to appear in their first uniform. This consisted of Glengarry Bonnets with Blackcock feather, dark Green tunics and kilts and plaids in Hunting Menzies tartan. This was a mark of respect for Chief Constable Dewar, whose family was a Sept of the Menzies clan. The Hunting Menzies tartan was worn till very recently, when for some unknown reason, the tartan was changed to some "chocolate box" invention.
     Until the last few years, the band has had a very close association with the Scots Guards, as many members were recruited there. In 1937 it was decided to follow the Scots Guards style of uniform including Feather Bonnets, dark Blue doublets, waist belts, sporrans and spats - everything except the tartan changed.
Tear Stained Dollars
An interesting anecdote can be told about the uniforms.
     In 1965, representation was made to the local authority for a grant to help purchase new uniforms. Superintendent "Herby" Lambert said,     "We made it because we felt we were the town band. One point made in support of the claim was that the kilts and plaids then being worn were the original garments purchased in 1908.
     This item of news was picked up by the news agencies and flashed around the world.
     Exiled Dundonians were touched when they read about the "ragged" police pipe band and many a tear drenched dollar arrived on the Chief Constables desk from far away places. The band got their new uniforms."

The Revival
     Dundee Police Pipe Band went into the doldrums when they lost there Pipers, with army experience, as they retired and were not replaced. The band disappeared from the competing world due to this, but were kept alive due to the actions of strong willed members such as Superintendent Herbert "Herby" Lambert, and later relied strongly on the steely resolve of Stewart Harris. Stewart later became Chief Superintendent in Dundee with special responsibility for the Band.
     In 1968/69 Pipe Major Peter Maynard retired and it was "Herby" who discovered that Ron McKay, a Glaswegian by birth, living in Arbroath and working in Forfar, and a Pipe Major, was looking for a band. Here was an answer to the problems. Ron became a special constable and qualified to join the band.
     Pipe Major Ron McKay soon brought in others along with Jimmy Mills, a well known and active local drummer.

The following five photographs were sent to me by Donald Aitkenhead,
the son of a long serving band and Police member, "Charlie"
He says:
Charles Aitkenhead joined Dundee City Police after the war with a probation period from 1947-1949 after
which he married in 1950 at the age of 30.  He worked the beat in the Murraygate area of the city, eventually
moving to the traffic department where he spent most of his years.  
He ended his time at Bell Street where he was involved with the first traffic wardens in Dundee.
Charles retired in 1975.







Charles Aitkenhead joined Dundee City Police after the war with a probation period from
1947-1949 after which he married in 1950 at the age of 30.  He worked the beat in the
Murraygate area of the city, eventually moving to the traffic department where he spent
most of his years.  He ended his time at Bell Street where he was involved with the first
traffic wardens in Dundee.  Charles retired in 1975.




On to the 1960's now


Alexander (Sandy) Salmond & Brother, Stewart McCulloch Salmond
Dundee City Police Pipe Band 1960's

Taken at Braemar in the early 1960's
L to R: Pipe Sergeant Norman MacLeod, Donnie Saunders, Stewart Salmond, John Dickson, ?, Neil McMillan, ?, ?, Pipe Major Peter Maynard


1974
After five years of recruiting and working, Pipe Major Ron McKay has rebuilt the Police Band.
On the playing side, Ron was the man responsible for the revival.
But who is he?
Ron took up the pipes at the age of nine and says, "I don't really know what started me playing the bagpipes, I think I just drifted into it. One or two of my relatives played and in particular, an uncle of my mother".
     "When I left school, I served my apprenticeship with a well known Glasgow Pipe-maker. In time I became a member of the 277 Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders RA, Territorial Army Pipe Band and in 1962 won the World Championships with them."

It was with great sadness I had to tell you all that Stewart Harris died
on Saturday 23rd June 2007.
(Below)Seated on the left of this picture you see Stewart Harris. Stewart was one of those
people who saw to it that the Police Band continued through thick and thin. During his many
years with the Police Band he served it in every possible way. From being a Constable and
Side Drummer, all the way through to being the Chief Superintendent who had the power
to make things happen.
In so many ways, Stewart was the Band, for it's own sake and not his.
"With a dead straight face, he had a humour that could skin a cat"
Rear Standing: Bruce Abbott, Jim Milne, Ronald Hastie, Gordon Dickson, Norval Fyall, Neil McMillan

Centre Standing: P/M Ron MacKay, Fred Duncan, Bobby Barker , Kenneth Chisholm, Gordon Rogers,
Drum Sergeant Claude Miller, George Miller, John Ogilvie, Bert Bowman, Robert Finlay,
John Dickson, Jack Lockhart, D/M Douglas Wares

Seated: Chief Superintendent Stewart Harris and Sergeant Stewart Low


Below
L to R:  Claude Miller, Bruce Abbott, James Milne, George Miller, Gordon Dickson, Ronnie Hastie, Norval Fyall, D/M Douglas Wares




Tayside Police 1976
German visitors from Wurzburg, Germany.

Gordon Rogers,  John Dickson,  Norval Fyall,  Tom Deas,  visiting couple, Pipe Major Ronnie McKay,
P/Sgt Fred Duncan, Thorfin Drever,  Jim Taylor,  Kenny Chisholm,  unknown piper.
Kneeling:   Ronald Hastie and Bruce Abbot



Tayside Police in the 1980's

Back row.   Bruce Abbot, Ronald Hastie,  George Millar,  Berty Hunter
Third row.   Frank Donald, Stewart Stirling, Kenneth Copeland, Gordon Dickson.
Second row. John Ogilvie, Keith Leask, Thorfin Drever, Duncan Elwood, Kenneth Leask.
Front row L to R  P/M Gordon Rogers, P/Sgt Stewart Davidson, Fred Duncan, Stewart Robertson, Tom Deas, D/M Duncan Brooksbank.
This Photo appeared in"The Pipe Band" magazine of the R. S. P. B. A.

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1982 sees the Band marching down Reform Street, Dundee,
at the head of the Students "Rag" parade for charities.
Members of parade:
Drum Major Richard Hamilton
Pipe Major Gordon Rogers, David Mann, Jock Ogilvie, David Sutherland, Bass Drummer almost certainly "Geordie" Miller,
Stewart Robertson, Side Drum Bruce Abbot, Tenor David Smith, Pipe Sergeant Stewart Davidson


23/6/07   Watch this space as there may be a major update soon.
Almost immediately I have been donated this photo of Tayside Police around 2005 (where?)

My last memory of 2010 is  not a happy one
Bobby Barker was one those guys who turns up just
 when needed and turns out to be one of the good'ums.
Bobby was taught his piping in the Boys Brigade,
Dundee,and as usual they did a fine job.
After serving his time as an upholsterer in Dundee,
Bobby married and the family emigrated to New Zealand.
In the fullness of time, they all returned home and Bobby
found his way to my door at Dundee City Police Pipe Band (Tayside).
He described his piping as a bit rusty, but set about improving
in our company and I feel thoruoghly safe in saying. As a piper
he was a credit and just fine. As a character in the Band, he was
bloody marvellous. Every band needs one +++.
I Piped him to his final resting place in the small Kirk cemetery of
Panbride Church, near Carnoustie, close to my home, and will visit again.

TAYSIDE POLICE PIPE BAND DISAPPEAR

Suddenly, and immediately following their performance in Grade One at this years
World Championships, Tayside Police Pipe Band have decided to disappear into oblivion.
This band has a long history dating back to 1905 and has a background full of service
 to the Dundee community with a number of honorable members during that time.
         In it's past, the band has seen success and this is not the first time that it has gone
down to a very low level. The Band having been in virtual hibernation, but still surviving, the Chief Constable in the late 1960's pulled out the stops and brought in a new Pipe Major in Ron Mackay who was given the task of reviving the band and making it a competitive unit with visible local ties. This was done with the arrival of new Police and Fire Brigade members. The only early flaw was when they were placed in Grade 2, when Grade 3 might have served their purpose better at this early stage.
                  Personally, I would be saddened if they simply rolled over at this stage and would
hope that some of the old guard come out of the background and take charge. There has to be people still there who are able to get back to basics at perhaps a lesser level.
Finish now and you might not be able to get going again!

The end!
It would now appear that the inevitible has happened.
As the end of 2010 approached, he band dispersed to various corners of the country
with the new lady Chief Constable telling those who would listen, that she was about
to withdraw financial support.
In previous years, the band has been supported by various bodies such as the Police,
The City of Dundee Council, Ladbrokes the Bookmakers (OH YES!) and their own Amatuer
Athletics Association.
Previous encumbents were thrifty with the money, but in more recent times the finances
may well have been more demanding, and coming from just one sourse?
Anyway....The lady was not for supporting and, like the close thing suffered in Strathclyde,
it was a woman who called the final tune.
Many wives tried and failed before!

Sorry indeed to hear of your passing, bandsmen.






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